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A Lot Of Persona 5 Players Are Sick Of Makoto’s Crap – TheFantasyTimes

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By Nikita Gambhir

A Lot Of Persona 5 Players Are Sick Of Makoto’s Crap


A fascinatingly extensive list on Reddit has sparked a discussion about the character Makoto Niijima in Persona 5. Although it may seem like a troll post, it does provide a plethora of reasons (spanning a whopping 17 pages) as to why her character is unremarkable and downright irritating from the moment she makes her debut in the story.



The primary point of criticism — which numerous fans concur with — revolves around how the game attempts to portray her as this exceptionally intelligent individual who is unparalleled by anyone else, despite having nothing to substantiate this claim. The fan highlights how she immediately assumes a leadership role among the Phantom Thieves, despite lacking experience with their operations and the enigmatic nature of the palaces (not to mention her absurd infiltration scene with the Yakuza, which was an utterly foolish decision for a character supposedly regarded as the ‘brains’ of the Phantom Thieves and a high school student).

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The fan also argues that Makoto doesn’t contribute anything substantial to the modus operandi of the Phantom Thieves. In fact, they provide an extensive list of individual contributions made by the other members, showcasing their active analysis of their surroundings and their ability to make informed decisions in both the real world and the Metaverse. In contrast, Makoto offers the most nonsensical deductions such as “If you have to go, you need to go” and other meaningless drivel.

The fan’s dissatisfaction with Makoto extends to her personality, which is undeniably haughty, as they rightly point out. There’s even that infamous scene where she declares that spending time with the player is not worthwhile to her (and that the player needs to improve themselves and become intelligent enough, according to the game’s standards, to be in her presence). However, as Miki-Corkrei mentions, Makoto never truly rectifies her own flaws. She continues to be domineering and chastises those around her for not being exceptional students like herself all the time.

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There are several other observations, such as the game sidelining Morgana in favor of Makoto, despite the two possessing similar skill sets. Makoto’s social link requiring extra charm serves no logical purpose other than to give her an advantage and enhance her self-perception. Lastly, there’s the treatment of Ryuji in that scene, not only by Makoto but by all the girls. It is a testament to deep-rooted animosity, but at least it provides ample material for a thorough analysis.

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An interestingly long list on Reddit has started a discussion about Persona 5’s Makoto Niijima. And while it reads like a troll post, it does list some pretty convincing reasons (a whopping 17 pages’ worth of reasons, mind you) for why her character is just bland and downright annoying from the moment she first appeares in the story.



The first point of criticism — which many fans agree with — is how the game tries to sell her as this smarty pants that no one can compare to, when she has nothing to prove. The fan points out how she immediately tries to lead the Phantom Thieves, even though she has no experience with their work and the ambiguous nature of the palaces (and that’s not even getting into her infamous Yakuza infiltration scene, which was the dumbest decision a so-called ‘brains of the phantom theives’ character and a high schooler could do).

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The fan also argues that Makoto doesn’t really add anything substantial to the Phantom Thieves’ modus operandi. In fact, they share an extensive list of individual contributions that prove the members actively analyze their surroundings and make constructive decisions in both the real world and the Metaverse. Meanwhile, Makoto comes up with the most brain-dead deductions like “If you have to go, you need to go” and other meaningless nonsense.

The fan’s pet peeve with Makoto extends to her personality, which is indeed pretty high-horsey, we’ll give them that. There’s even that infamous scene where she says spending time with you isn’t worthwhile to her (and that you need to fix yourself and become smart enough according to the game’s rules to be able to stand in her presence). However, and as Miki-Corkrei mentionsMakoto never really fixes her own self. She continues to be bossy and admonish everyone around her for not being a straight-A student like her all the time.

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There are several other observations, like how the game dumps Morgana for Makoto, even though the two have really similar skill sets. Her social link requirring extra charm for no logical purpose other than to give her an advantage and makes her feel better about herself. And finally, there’s the way Ryuji is treated in that scene by not just Makoto but all the girls. Talk about a deep-seated grudge, but at least it’s fun enough to write a report about.

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